obama just finished our security, he was the one who approved of this. same with all the other espionage act prosecutions of whistleblowers. i do not think he would have an epiphany or moment of truth that this is not a wise path in a democratic society that is supposed to be transparent. >> many -- manning did try to reach out to the "new york times." woul -- what does that tell you about journalism in general, the wikileaks angle and julian assange? >> it sounds like they blew him off. no one responded. given their coverage of the trial, it has been abysmal. they have not shown up during much of it. in terms of whether they would cover it, i do not know. i do not know if they would have covered his disclosure. i am not sure what they would have done on that. there is a war on whistleblowers and journalism and a cracked out on information if it happens -- a crackdown on information if it embarrasses the government or exposes crime. >> thank you. >> moving on to the nsa. it has been roughly 2.5 months since the edward snowden leaks were exposed to the wo